what does selling out mean? and once a band sells out, does that mean any new music isn't valid or good? i struggle with these same things myself, i first saw modest mouse the year 2000 or earlier, so it's totally weird to see them on the radio and on bullshit corporate tv. but this is capitalism, and i can't say that if i was in a similar position that i wouldn't do the same. i guess i feel selfish of independent culture when it gets co opted by the mainstream, another ambigious term, but then i remember that there's always new independent bands and culture that's fresh and original and not yet on mtv.